{"id":15589,"date":"2025-08-03T03:05:04","date_gmt":"2025-08-03T03:05:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ipp-news.com\/?p=15589"},"modified":"2025-08-03T03:05:04","modified_gmt":"2025-08-03T03:05:04","slug":"how-paf-shot-down-indian-jets-with-j-10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ipp-news.com\/?p=15589","title":{"rendered":"How PAF shot down Indian jets with J-10"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>Just after midnight on May 7, the screen in the Pakistan Air Force&#8217;s operations room lit up in red with the positions of dozens of active enemy planes across the border in India.<\/p>\n<p>Air Chief Marshal Zaheer Sidhu had been sleeping on a mattress just off that room for days in anticipation of an Indian assault.<\/p>\n<p>New Delhi had blamed Islamabad for backing terrorists who carried out an attack the previous month in IIOJK, which killed 26 civilians. Despite Islamabad denying any involvement, India had vowed a response, which came in the early hours of May 7 with air strikes on Pakistan.<\/p>\n<p>Sidhu ordered Pakistan&#8217;s prized Chinese-made J-10C jets to scramble. A senior Pakistani Air Force (PAF) official, who was present in the operations room, said Sidhu instructed his staff to target Rafales, a French-made fighter that is the jewel of India&#8217;s fleet and had never been downed in battle.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;He wanted Rafales,&#8221; said the official.<\/p>\n<p>The hour-long fight, which took place in darkness, involved some 110 aircraft, experts estimate, making it the world&#8217;s largest air battle in decades.<\/p>\n<p>The J-10s shot down at least one Rafale, Reuters reported in May, citing US officials. However, Pakistan downed at least 6 jet aircraft in the war. Its downing surprised many in the military community and raised questions about the effectiveness of Western military hardware against untested Chinese alternatives.<\/p>\n<p>But Reuters interviews with two Indian officials and three of their Pakistani counterparts found that the performance of the Rafale wasn&#8217;t the key problem: Central to its downing was an Indian intelligence failure concerning the range of the China-made PL-15 missile fired by the J-10 fighter. China and Pakistan are the only countries to operate both J-10s, known as Vigorous Dragons, and PL-15s.<\/p>\n<p>The faulty intelligence gave the Rafale pilots a false sense of confidence they were out of Pakistani firing distance, which they believed was only around 150km, the Indian officials said, referring to the widely cited range of PL-15&#8217;s export variant.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We ambushed them,&#8221; the PAF official said, adding that Islamabad conducted an electronic warfare assault on Delhi&#8217;s systems in an attempt to confuse Indian pilots. Indian officials dispute the effectiveness of those efforts.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The Indians were not expecting to be shot at,&#8221; said Justin Bronk, air warfare expert at London&#8217;s Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) think-tank. &#8220;And the PL-15 is clearly very capable at long range.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The PL-15 that hit the Rafale was fired from around 200km (124.27 mi) away, according to Pakistani officials, and even farther according to Indian officials. That would make it among the longest-range air-to-air strikes recorded.<\/p>\n<p>India&#8217;s defense and foreign ministries did not return requests for comment about the intelligence mistakes. Delhi hasn&#8217;t acknowledged a Rafale being shot down, but France&#8217;s air chief told reporters in June that he had seen evidence of the loss of that fighter and two other aircraft flown by India, including a Russian-made Sukhoi. A top Dassault executive also told French lawmakers that month that India had lost a Rafale in operations, though he didn&#8217;t have specific details.<\/p>\n<p>Pakistan&#8217;s military referred to past comments by a spokesperson who said that its professional preparedness and resolve was more important than the weaponry it had deployed. China&#8217;s defense ministry did not respond to Reuters&#8217; questions. Dassault and UAC, the manufacturer of the Sukhoi, also did not return requests for comment.<\/p><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Just after midnight on May 7, the screen in the Pakistan Air Force&#8217;s operations room lit up in red with the positions of dozens of active enemy planes across the border in India. 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